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19/08/2018 2:28 pm
What do you guys think.. my first cycle.. I will be doing 300mg of deca a wk, and 200mg of primo. Maybe through in some anavar at the end.. not sure. eating roughly 4000 calories.. 300grms of protein and a shitload of carbs. I will be eating clean so.. fat will not be higher than 50 – 60gms. Also.. how many days do you guys workout per wk.? (at the gym) Should I do.. 5 days on.. weekends off? or one day on, one day off.?
19/08/2018 3:13 pm
Try and get some test in bro! As for how many days i workout a week. I do the 2 on 1 off routine!
Topic starter
19/08/2018 4:04 pm
The reason I am going with Deca and Primo is.. they are on the top of the list for the safer AS. I know there is risk with any.. but would like to stay away from the ones that have more side effects, and can cause some bad damage. 🙂
19/08/2018 5:00 pm
Deca will cause the worst damage…On your shlong!! these bro’s are right throw in some test along with those drugs. Dont worry, you will be fine, as long as you know what your doing. It sounds like you should do more research first. Educate yourself before you inject yourself.
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19/08/2018 5:57 pm
I have been reading the boards for months.. and doing lots of research.
I know about deca dick and am not worried about that.. as my fiance had our son a year ago and her sex drive is still not back fully. So if I get it… she might be happy that I have stopped hounding her every morning and night. *l*
As this is my first cycle.. I would like to keep it simple.. and don’t really want to stack to many things.
Why does everyone recommend the test..??
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19/08/2018 6:58 pm
After just doing some quick reading.. I remember why I did not want to touch the test.
Gyno.. massive water retention. It it can cause gyno.. I won’t go near it. 🙂
19/08/2018 7:44 pm
Hey, gyno isn’t a problem at lower dosages… and you canget gyno from deca just as easily as test. It just depends on genetics. It’s always a good idea to have some nolvadex Water retention isn’t a bad thing… actually the more water you retain the stronger you’ll be. You can throw in some test propionate or something fast acting and water retention isn’t a problem. It’s also easily controlled by watching your sodium intake and making sure you’re drinking an assload of water (which you should be doing anyway). Deca is a bit harder on your system than most boards or gear profiles tell ya. Test has been tried and true… you really should consider it.
19/08/2018 8:16 pm
Gyno induce by Deca will not be stopped by Nolvadex. You would need to include Winstrol to combat it.
If you’re ok w/ Deca dick, go for it. That will be a pure anabolic cycle.
Although if you can get Anavar, just do Anavar & Premo. You might not even need to use Clomid then.
19/08/2018 9:04 pm
deca will cause water retention,just like test. You really should consider some test if you are looking for size and strength, but if you are just look to cut than stick with primo. If you ran sust. 250 at 250mgs a week, you will have no problems with gyno you could really run it at 500 per week with no problem. But it is always a good idea to have nolvenex around anyway.
19/08/2018 9:47 pm
Originally posted by Tadger Hey, gyno isn’t a problem at lower dosages… and you canget gyno from deca just as easily as test. It just depends on genetics. It’s always a good idea to have some nolvadex Water retention isn’t a bad thing… actually the more water you retain the stronger you’ll be. You can throw in some test propionate or something fast acting and water retention isn’t a problem. It’s also easily controlled by watching your sodium intake and making sure you’re drinking an assload of water (which you should be doing anyway). Deca is a bit harder on your system than most boards or gear profiles tell ya. Test has been tried and true… you really should consider it. proviron is supposed to be better than nolvadex.nolvadex blocks estrogen receptor sites while proviron stops estrogen from forming thru aromitization therefore the estrogen is never even present. nolvadex also lowers the effectivness of whatever type of roid u happen to be using.
