JMan,

Hormone levels have little to do with the depression. What leads to the depression is the psychological dependancy and the self realization that you are no longer taking a drug to keep you big and strong. It becomes more pronounced when you see your size being reduced and that your strength is ebbing. I have seen many a person, not return to the gym until they start a new cycle. It really comes down to your attitude that you can still grow or maintain yourself by pure hard work.

Unless you are a competitive bodybuilder, please be safe and go on your off cycle which should equal the length of your on cycle. This will allow your receptors to clear and your body functions to normalize.

Remember that Steroids are drugs and like any drug misuse and abuse leads to addiction. Addiction is the psychological dependancy to attain a feeling you want. And for us it is the fear of being small.

Keep the faith, Thick

Bump. its the truth!

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Great reply Thick!! We also should take into account that some people are more prone to depression than others. Various studies indicate that depression is a genetic characteristic that is passed on from one generation to the next.

Good addition Samson.

Keep the faith, Thick

I experience the same thing even when using clomid or HCG. It is just the imbalance of hormones and doesn’t last that long. I also believe that some are more prone to it than others.

Excellent post Iron Bro…very well though out and versed…Thick1 and Samson.

I would take more time off then on. It takes a while for naturall test levels to come back. I have been off for 4 months and am still edging my way back to normal using clomid. Get blood work done to be sure wehn to go back on. I have only done 2 cycles so I have not abused steroids by any means.

I do hear you with the depression….Low test levels do cause depression so once those return you should feel alot better. Start clomid again this will bring your test levels up. (LH will go up which means test will rise) you should start feeling better after 3 more weeks of clomid.

I did go through a crash, but now I use valiums at night and zoloft during the day to help my mood. I also get off my cycles with HCG the first 2 days and continue with 150mg clomid/wk 1 and 100 mg clomid wk 2

Excellent points by Thick and Samson. I would like to suggest that you go pick up some St. John’s wort bro. I compete very competitively and quite honestly, sometimes I don’t go off for a year straight. However, I have experienced the lull you feel when you’re off. Gee, I can remember being in better shape than 90% of the guys I would see, yet, I’d go out with my girl on the town and I’d lack that big nuts feeling of being a big buff stud monster….you know the feeling, when you feel so good, that you could basically nut one out, by feeling yourself up. Damn by bi’s are big, man my pecs are hard, etc. St. Johns wil help your feeling of well being and as Thick said, train hard to keep your new gains, so when you go for your next cycle, you’ll be that much ahead of the game.

trey

how do i get a doctor to prescribe zoloft and stuff? I dont want to have to ‘talk things out’ or go to those damn groups like they might want me to… i just want the fuckin meds.. 😉

Any ideas?

-Z-

yeah, lots of good info posted here already. however, I do have to disagree with thick (I think he said it) and say that extreme loss of testosterone levels will cause mild depression. however, he is right in saying that a good deal of it is caused by the psychological loss of the juice. is it a coincidence that we feel on top of the world while we’re on the sauce?? no… test levels have a lot to do about how we feel! come off the gear the right way and you’ll be fine.

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My bad, I did state that testostorone levels play a small role in depression when I forgot that we are talking about steroids. With some clarification.

Yes the injesting of artifical testostorones gives us a sense of well being…it makes us more aggressive and we become dependant on those feelings which are power and size..which has now led us to the psyhcological portion which is to keep achieving those feelings we become addicted to the steroids as we refuse to go into the low periods which technically are withdrawals.

Post care is just as important as being on a cycle as the proper use of clomid / HCG / Tribulus will help get our natural testostorone levels back to par faster than by not taking anything. However realize that what is fighting the depression when you are on clomid is that you psychologically feel you are taking something to keep you big. Do not get caught up in taking to much clomid as it can cause testicle problems.

Keep the faith, Thick

Testicle Problems???????????

I am perscribed clomid and my doc never said anything about testicle problems. And by no means does clomid make me feel like I need to gain. I hate the shit to be honest..

Please post some research that backs up the statement that clomid can cause damage to your ball bag