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depends how fresh your receptors are, how new you are to cycling, and what your diet is like(to achieve the desired look).
trey
wel i`m not new to juice …i have done about 6 cycles. I don`t want to get cut but just lose some fat and keep my muscle..
later bigiron
if your going to use fina i would use the winny at the same time to occupy the progesterone receptors as i believe that fina converts to progesterone. later Tiny